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	<title>Comments on: Faux Borders and Pseudo Table Effect</title>
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		<title>By: 24sata.hr goes&#160;non-standards &#124; maratz.com</title>
		<link>http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2005/03/16/faux-borders-pseudo-table-effect/comment-page-1/#comment-10910</link>
		<dc:creator>24sata.hr goes&#160;non-standards &#124; maratz.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 09:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] we were developing the first incarnation, we learned a lot about Mac browsers and also introduced Faux borders, the advanced CSS positioning concept, which after that became widely recognized. When the original [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] we were developing the first incarnation, we learned a lot about Mac browsers and also introduced Faux borders, the advanced CSS positioning concept, which after that became widely recognized. When the original [...]</p>
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		<title>By: marko</title>
		<link>http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2005/03/16/faux-borders-pseudo-table-effect/comment-page-1/#comment-875</link>
		<dc:creator>marko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Aug 2005 08:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ouch! For five months nobody saw that :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ouch! For five months nobody saw that :)</p>
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		<title>By: Ta Mok</title>
		<link>http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2005/03/16/faux-borders-pseudo-table-effect/comment-page-1/#comment-874</link>
		<dc:creator>Ta Mok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Aug 2005 01:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excuse me but...
&quot;(100px width + 2px right-margin + 2 x 1px borders) x 3 boxes = 612px total width)&quot; is not quite correct ;) You probably meant 200px (as I can see width of boxes in examples).
Anyway it does work in IE6.
Regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excuse me but&#8230;<br />
&#8220;(100px width + 2px right-margin + 2 x 1px borders) x 3 boxes = 612px total width)&#8221; is not quite correct ;) You probably meant 200px (as I can see width of boxes in examples).<br />
Anyway it does work in IE6.<br />
Regards</p>
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		<title>By: eSearing</title>
		<link>http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2005/03/16/faux-borders-pseudo-table-effect/comment-page-1/#comment-659</link>
		<dc:creator>eSearing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>could you place an invisible image in the containers which forces the height width to a particular size? Or is that what you are doing in the background div. 

Roan, 
here is a method I came up with but not as elegant because it uses scroll bars:
http://esearing.com/webDev/mockups/3ColsNested.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>could you place an invisible image in the containers which forces the height width to a particular size? Or is that what you are doing in the background div. </p>
<p>Roan,<br />
here is a method I came up with but not as elegant because it uses scroll bars:<br />
<a href="http://esearing.com/webDev/mockups/3ColsNested.html" rel="nofollow">http://esearing.com/webDev/mockups/3ColsNested.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Roan Lavery</title>
		<link>http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2005/03/16/faux-borders-pseudo-table-effect/comment-page-1/#comment-642</link>
		<dc:creator>Roan Lavery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jun 2005 17:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just stumbled across this. Interesting article, although I&#039;ve still to find a solution that works for liquid designs. 

All of these &quot;faux techniques&quot; rely on fixed width images which obviously wont resize. Has anybody found a solution for liquid designs?

Is probably the only scenario where I still end up having to use tables.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just stumbled across this. Interesting article, although I&#8217;ve still to find a solution that works for liquid designs. </p>
<p>All of these &#8220;faux techniques&#8221; rely on fixed width images which obviously wont resize. Has anybody found a solution for liquid designs?</p>
<p>Is probably the only scenario where I still end up having to use tables.</p>
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		<title>By: dusoft</title>
		<link>http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2005/03/16/faux-borders-pseudo-table-effect/comment-page-1/#comment-342</link>
		<dc:creator>dusoft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good explanation of interesting solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good explanation of interesting solution.</p>
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		<title>By: marko</title>
		<link>http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2005/03/16/faux-borders-pseudo-table-effect/comment-page-1/#comment-340</link>
		<dc:creator>marko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2005 14:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kae: As Dean Edwards &lt;a href=&quot;http://dean.edwards.name/IE7/&quot;&gt;wrote&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;blockquote cite=&quot;http://dean.edwards.name/IE7/&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#8220;Remember this is alpha software. I&#8217;m still developing this solution, what you are looking at is a work in progress. It is not advisable to use IE7 on a commercial web site until it becomes at least  beta software.&#8221;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kae: As Dean Edwards <a href="http://dean.edwards.name/IE7/">wrote</a>:<br />
<blockquote cite="http://dean.edwards.name/IE7/">
<p>&#8220;Remember this is alpha software. I&#8217;m still developing this solution, what you are looking at is a work in progress. It is not advisable to use IE7 on a commercial web site until it becomes at least  beta software.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Kae Verens</title>
		<link>http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2005/03/16/faux-borders-pseudo-table-effect/comment-page-1/#comment-338</link>
		<dc:creator>Kae Verens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d recommend using .subNav li:first-child and .subNav li:last-child to select the LIs, as it will mean less repetition in the source.

Firefox will understand what you mean, and you can get IE to understand it by applying Dean Edwards&#039; IE7 patch (ie7.sf.net)

btw: your &quot;preview&quot; comment thing slows my poor laptop to a crawl.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d recommend using .subNav li:first-child and .subNav li:last-child to select the LIs, as it will mean less repetition in the source.</p>
<p>Firefox will understand what you mean, and you can get IE to understand it by applying Dean Edwards&#8217; IE7 patch (ie7.sf.net)</p>
<p>btw: your &#8220;preview&#8221; comment thing slows my poor laptop to a crawl.</p>
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		<title>By: marko</title>
		<link>http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2005/03/16/faux-borders-pseudo-table-effect/comment-page-1/#comment-337</link>
		<dc:creator>marko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crap! I missed to check for the floating bugs in IE. It&#8217;s fixed now : ). However, adjusting for IE 5.x requires more hacking, which is out of the context of this topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crap! I missed to check for the floating bugs in IE. It&#8217;s fixed now : ). However, adjusting for IE 5.x requires more hacking, which is out of the context of this topic.</p>
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		<title>By: Jan Havrda</title>
		<link>http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2005/03/16/faux-borders-pseudo-table-effect/comment-page-1/#comment-336</link>
		<dc:creator>Jan Havrda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice, but doesnt work in IE6 to me?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice, but doesnt work in IE6 to me?</p>
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		<title>By: medo</title>
		<link>http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2005/03/16/faux-borders-pseudo-table-effect/comment-page-1/#comment-335</link>
		<dc:creator>medo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice technique. 

Hvala Marko. Pozdrav iz Londona</description>
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<p>Hvala Marko. Pozdrav iz Londona</p>
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		<title>By: kartooner</title>
		<link>http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2005/03/16/faux-borders-pseudo-table-effect/comment-page-1/#comment-334</link>
		<dc:creator>kartooner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s a unique technique and I&#039;m with Oxton, it&#039;s one to save for the bookmarks. Thanks for sharing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s a unique technique and I&#8217;m with Oxton, it&#8217;s one to save for the bookmarks. Thanks for sharing!</p>
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		<title>By: John Oxton</title>
		<link>http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2005/03/16/faux-borders-pseudo-table-effect/comment-page-1/#comment-333</link>
		<dc:creator>John Oxton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very neat,  one for the bookmarks! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very neat,  one for the bookmarks! :-)</p>
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