Comments on: One-pagers will be the hit of the 2006! http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2005/12/22/one-pagers-will-be-the-hit-of-the-next-season-i-tell-you/ Hypertext rulez™ Sun, 07 Sep 2008 18:02:55 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Jens Meiert http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2005/12/22/one-pagers-will-be-the-hit-of-the-next-season-i-tell-you/#comment-1691 Jens Meiert Thu, 29 Dec 2005 12:49:33 +0000 http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2005/12/22/one-pagers-will-be-the-hit-of-the-next-season-i-tell-you/#comment-1691 Usually, you shouldn't offer a web site if you don't have any content - but that business card style seems to be appropriate if you just want to provide basic and contact information. Using it myself for <a href="http://erde3.net/en/">erde/drei Web Development and Consulting</a>. Yet another one-pager. Usually, you shouldn’t offer a web site if you don’t have any content - but that business card style seems to be appropriate if you just want to provide basic and contact information. Using it myself for erde/drei Web Development and Consulting. Yet another one-pager.

]]> By: ward http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2005/12/22/one-pagers-will-be-the-hit-of-the-next-season-i-tell-you/#comment-1680 ward Tue, 27 Dec 2005 02:41:36 +0000 http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2005/12/22/one-pagers-will-be-the-hit-of-the-next-season-i-tell-you/#comment-1680 I think the seo issue is an important one. Search engines like sites with multiple pages. Also i think screenreaders and the people who use them are important and I agree that graceful degradation is a priority. As far as turning off javascript? Umm no. I think I will live dangerously and surf with javascript on. I think the seo issue is an important one. Search engines like sites with multiple pages. Also i think screenreaders and the people who use them are important and I agree that graceful degradation is a priority. As far as turning off javascript? Umm no. I think I will live dangerously and surf with javascript on.

]]> By: marko http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2005/12/22/one-pagers-will-be-the-hit-of-the-next-season-i-tell-you/#comment-1675 marko Sun, 25 Dec 2005 20:36:32 +0000 http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2005/12/22/one-pagers-will-be-the-hit-of-the-next-season-i-tell-you/#comment-1675 @ProClub: Chill out, man... You went a little bit off topic and claim things without arguments. @ProClub: Chill out, man… You went a little bit off topic and claim things without arguments.

]]> By: ProClub http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2005/12/22/one-pagers-will-be-the-hit-of-the-next-season-i-tell-you/#comment-1674 ProClub Sun, 25 Dec 2005 12:45:28 +0000 http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2005/12/22/one-pagers-will-be-the-hit-of-the-next-season-i-tell-you/#comment-1674 Well, this page is a really good demonstration, how JS should NOT be used. Try viewing it with JS off... AJAX is the future? I'm not so sure about that. I don't like JS. Well, partially, because how it is used. But there is also that nagging problem of browser security. I turned it off for a reason. And so did 193301 other people (NoScript downloads as until today). And as long as there are people willing to exploit browser security holes, this is not going to change. There will allways be systems and browsers, that do not support fancy technology. I for one, don't want to lose customers just to do some fancy stuff I could also do with server side scripting and a little rethinking. Maybe, AJAX will finally win, but definitely not next season. Maybe webmasters will use this new hype and claim their page is cool, because all that moving and interactive stuff, but a webpages quality is determined by it's criticists. And those will be the people not able to view AJAX pages. Well, this page is a really good demonstration, how JS should NOT be used. Try viewing it with JS off…

AJAX is the future? I’m not so sure about that. I don’t like JS. Well, partially, because how it is used. But there is also that nagging problem of browser security.

I turned it off for a reason. And so did 193301 other people (NoScript downloads as until today). And as long as there are people willing to exploit browser security holes, this is not going to change. There will allways be systems and browsers, that do not support fancy technology.

I for one, don’t want to lose customers just to do some fancy stuff I could also do with server side scripting and a little rethinking.

Maybe, AJAX will finally win, but definitely not next season. Maybe webmasters will use this new hype and claim their page is cool, because all that moving and interactive stuff, but a webpages quality is determined by it’s criticists. And those will be the people not able to view AJAX pages.

]]> By: Mislav http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2005/12/22/one-pagers-will-be-the-hit-of-the-next-season-i-tell-you/#comment-1673 Mislav Sun, 25 Dec 2005 11:17:12 +0000 http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2005/12/22/one-pagers-will-be-the-hit-of-the-next-season-i-tell-you/#comment-1673 I believe that properly used Ajax could eliminate refreshing from <strong>any</strong> page in the future. So far web development was all about links that, when clicked, return the same page, remixed plus some new content in the middle. Same header, navigation, footer... Only the classes for faux links changed and the content in the middle. So much reduntant downloads... Proper Ajax could sure fix that effectively reducing bandwidth costs, speed up the site and add to general user experience. That said it is clear that I believe one pagers will not only be popular in the future, but that they will <strong>be the future.</strong> I believe that properly used Ajax could eliminate refreshing from any page in the future. So far web development was all about links that, when clicked, return the same page, remixed plus some new content in the middle. Same header, navigation, footer… Only the classes for faux links changed and the content in the middle. So much reduntant downloads… Proper Ajax could sure fix that effectively reducing bandwidth costs, speed up the site and add to general user experience.

That said it is clear that I believe one pagers will not only be popular in the future, but that they will be the future.

]]> By: marko http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2005/12/22/one-pagers-will-be-the-hit-of-the-next-season-i-tell-you/#comment-1672 marko Sun, 25 Dec 2005 09:30:31 +0000 http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2005/12/22/one-pagers-will-be-the-hit-of-the-next-season-i-tell-you/#comment-1672 <blockquote>“AJAX is just plain stupid. I turn off JS in my browser, suddenly nothing works on the o-so-fancy pages. Just like this.”</blockquote> When we discuss about AJAX, it’s assumed that there is adequate substitute for non-JS user agents. Don’t blame the technology, blame the one who uses it improperly.

“AJAX is just plain stupid. I turn off JS in my browser, suddenly nothing works on the o-so-fancy pages. Just like this.”

When we discuss about AJAX, it’s assumed that there is adequate substitute for non-JS user agents. Don’t blame the technology, blame the one who uses it improperly.

]]> By: Proclub http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2005/12/22/one-pagers-will-be-the-hit-of-the-next-season-i-tell-you/#comment-1618 Proclub Sat, 24 Dec 2005 17:17:16 +0000 http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2005/12/22/one-pagers-will-be-the-hit-of-the-next-season-i-tell-you/#comment-1618 AJAX is just plain stupid. I turn off JS in my browser, suddenly nothing works on the o-so-fancy pages. Just like this. No JS, no background, for example. Can't read a thing. Webpages should retain a minimal usability after JS is switched off. Did you EVER happen to think about visually impaired people using JAWS? Well, they won't be able to see a thing of whatever you do with JS. As a matter of fact, JAWS gets confused by AJAX. So I stick by unobstrusive JS and even that, I use it minimally. Hiding content and using other fancy dohickys is out of question for me. Look at the download numbers for the NoScript extension for Firefox. You'll be surprised. I use it too. And I like it. Sites, that don't work without JS rarely get the chance of me switching JS on. Mostly, I just leave them. So, can you, or in most cases, your client really afford to lose a significant percentage (1-5%, maybe) of your visitors just for the luxury of using one page and JS-loading content into it instead of doing some server-side work? Of course, most clients don't know, or even if they do, they don't care. Visually impaired or blind people seem insignificant. But they ARE important and so are the search engines. I never heard of a SE parsing JS code... AJAX is just plain stupid. I turn off JS in my browser, suddenly nothing works on the o-so-fancy pages. Just like this.

No JS, no background, for example. Can’t read a thing. Webpages should retain a minimal usability after JS is switched off.

Did you EVER happen to think about visually impaired people using JAWS? Well, they won’t be able to see a thing of whatever you do with JS. As a matter of fact, JAWS gets confused by AJAX.

So I stick by unobstrusive JS and even that, I use it minimally. Hiding content and using other fancy dohickys is out of question for me.

Look at the download numbers for the NoScript extension for Firefox. You’ll be surprised. I use it too. And I like it. Sites, that don’t work without JS rarely get the chance of me switching JS on. Mostly, I just leave them.

So, can you, or in most cases, your client really afford to lose a significant percentage (1-5%, maybe) of your visitors just for the luxury of using one page and JS-loading content into it instead of doing some server-side work?

Of course, most clients don’t know, or even if they do, they don’t care. Visually impaired or blind people seem insignificant. But they ARE important and so are the search engines. I never heard of a SE parsing JS code…

]]> By: Rick Moore http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2005/12/22/one-pagers-will-be-the-hit-of-the-next-season-i-tell-you/#comment-1617 Rick Moore Sat, 24 Dec 2005 02:51:32 +0000 http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2005/12/22/one-pagers-will-be-the-hit-of-the-next-season-i-tell-you/#comment-1617 we redesigned our 50 page site to a one-pager earlier this year (wow..could we actually be on the cusp of something instead of behind for a change!?!) The benefits have been great; easier to manage, highly focused, and more fun to do. I recommend them!!! we redesigned our 50 page site to a one-pager earlier this year (wow..could we actually be on the cusp of something instead of behind for a change!?!) The benefits have been great; easier to manage, highly focused, and more fun to do. I recommend them!!!

]]> By: Medo http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2005/12/22/one-pagers-will-be-the-hit-of-the-next-season-i-tell-you/#comment-1613 Medo Fri, 23 Dec 2005 10:54:02 +0000 http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2005/12/22/one-pagers-will-be-the-hit-of-the-next-season-i-tell-you/#comment-1613 I think they are perfectly acceptable. On the one hand you always want to build your site around the content available to you, so if you receive little content, such an approach is ideal. On the other hand, you may have sufficient content, but it could be that a one-pager is the preffered option for lets say marketing a specific product/service if the idea is to deliver a short succint message to people. So imo, it can work both ways. Nice write-up. And ... Sretan Bozic i novu 2006 I think they are perfectly acceptable.

On the one hand you always want to build your site around the content available to you, so if you receive little content, such an approach is ideal.

On the other hand, you may have sufficient content, but it could be that a one-pager is the preffered option for lets say marketing a specific product/service if the idea is to deliver a short succint message to people.

So imo, it can work both ways.

Nice write-up.

And … Sretan Bozic i novu 2006

]]> By: jinesh http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2005/12/22/one-pagers-will-be-the-hit-of-the-next-season-i-tell-you/#comment-1612 jinesh Fri, 23 Dec 2005 10:04:23 +0000 http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2005/12/22/one-pagers-will-be-the-hit-of-the-next-season-i-tell-you/#comment-1612 a really good example of a one page website would be MooFx (http://moofx.mad4milk.net/). the sliding effect along with minimal, targeted content really gets the message across...and it also shows the potential of their product. a really good example of a one page website would be MooFx (http://moofx.mad4milk.net/). the sliding effect along with minimal, targeted content really gets the message across…and it also shows the potential of their product.

]]> By: Thomas Baekdal http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2005/12/22/one-pagers-will-be-the-hit-of-the-next-season-i-tell-you/#comment-1610 Thomas Baekdal Thu, 22 Dec 2005 20:42:36 +0000 http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2005/12/22/one-pagers-will-be-the-hit-of-the-next-season-i-tell-you/#comment-1610 Great article! One-pagers are truly something we could all learn from. It is a good way to quickly and efficiently inform our prospective buyers what a product is about. Even in cases where sub-page are needed (for varies reasons), the first page could benefit from the one-pager philosophy. Another good One-pager (for your collection) is: http://www.microsoft.com/max/ Great article!

One-pagers are truly something we could all learn from. It is a good way to quickly and efficiently inform our prospective buyers what a product is about. Even in cases where sub-page are needed (for varies reasons), the first page could benefit from the one-pager philosophy.

Another good One-pager (for your collection) is:
http://www.microsoft.com/max/

]]> By: Jesse J. Anderson http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2005/12/22/one-pagers-will-be-the-hit-of-the-next-season-i-tell-you/#comment-1609 Jesse J. Anderson Thu, 22 Dec 2005 20:38:26 +0000 http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2005/12/22/one-pagers-will-be-the-hit-of-the-next-season-i-tell-you/#comment-1609 Thanks! I totally agree, I think too many people think that their website has to have a ton of stuff on it, to eb interactive, etc... with none of it being an actualy benefit to the user. I'm glad to see "One-Pagers" be recognized as an acceptable type of website. Thanks! I totally agree, I think too many people think that their website has to have a ton of stuff on it, to eb interactive, etc… with none of it being an actualy benefit to the user. I’m glad to see “One-Pagers” be recognized as an acceptable type of website.

]]> By: Thomas Baekdal http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2005/12/22/one-pagers-will-be-the-hit-of-the-next-season-i-tell-you/#comment-1608 Thomas Baekdal Thu, 22 Dec 2005 20:31:38 +0000 http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2005/12/22/one-pagers-will-be-the-hit-of-the-next-season-i-tell-you/#comment-1608 Great article! In my point of view we could all learn something from one-pagers. It is a very good way to quickly provide a prospective buyers with all the relevant information. Of course, sometimes it is just as useful to back the one-pager up with subsequent pages to really go into details in those cases where it is needed - that is when the user needs it, not marketing :0). Many of Apple product pages is a really good use of one-pagers with additional sub-pages. BTW: Here is another good "one-pager" - Microsoft Max http://www.microsoft.com/max/ Great article!

In my point of view we could all learn something from one-pagers. It is a very good way to quickly provide a prospective buyers with all the relevant information.

Of course, sometimes it is just as useful to back the one-pager up with subsequent pages to really go into details in those cases where it is needed - that is when the user needs it, not marketing :0).

Many of Apple product pages is a really good use of one-pagers with additional sub-pages.

BTW: Here is another good “one-pager” - Microsoft Max
http://www.microsoft.com/max/

]]> By: Heiko http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2005/12/22/one-pagers-will-be-the-hit-of-the-next-season-i-tell-you/#comment-1605 Heiko Thu, 22 Dec 2005 14:16:26 +0000 http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2005/12/22/one-pagers-will-be-the-hit-of-the-next-season-i-tell-you/#comment-1605 Great article. By the way, nice linklist and happy Christmas to you too! Great article. By the way, nice linklist and happy Christmas to you too!

]]> By: Wayne M http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2005/12/22/one-pagers-will-be-the-hit-of-the-next-season-i-tell-you/#comment-1603 Wayne M Thu, 22 Dec 2005 13:26:37 +0000 http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2005/12/22/one-pagers-will-be-the-hit-of-the-next-season-i-tell-you/#comment-1603 Funny I did a "one page" earlier this year for our portfolio http://www.sideshowcc.com (Now old portfolio) and it wasn’t received very well. Lot of people contacted me and asked where the is rest of the site etc... Nice to see it coming into fashion, makes me feel a little bit saner. Funny I did a “one page” earlier this year for our portfolio

http://www.sideshowcc.com

(Now old portfolio) and it wasn’t received very well. Lot of people contacted me and asked where the is rest of the site etc… Nice to see it coming into fashion, makes me feel a little bit saner.

]]> By: Dragan Babić http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2005/12/22/one-pagers-will-be-the-hit-of-the-next-season-i-tell-you/#comment-1602 Dragan Babić Thu, 22 Dec 2005 12:51:55 +0000 http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2005/12/22/one-pagers-will-be-the-hit-of-the-next-season-i-tell-you/#comment-1602 You have no idea how timely this article is for me! :) I have been thinking A LOT about this, only I really never knew there are some in the real world, and that they have a name. ("one-pagers") :) ®iveli! You have no idea how timely this article is for me! :)

I have been thinking A LOT about this, only I really never knew there are some in the real world, and that they have a name. (”one-pagers”) :)

®iveli!

]]> By: bojan http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2005/12/22/one-pagers-will-be-the-hit-of-the-next-season-i-tell-you/#comment-1601 bojan Thu, 22 Dec 2005 11:21:04 +0000 http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2005/12/22/one-pagers-will-be-the-hit-of-the-next-season-i-tell-you/#comment-1601 I'm quite fond of one-pagers, myself. I've done a couple of those this year (thnx for linking one of them), because of two reasons: 1) the client provided no content, but a business card, and 2) the client requested a site for a minimum fee. I agree with you for the most part. It's all about getting the message accross. A one-pager can very well mean that you will get that message accross quickly and clearly. I’m quite fond of one-pagers, myself. I’ve done a couple of those this year (thnx for linking one of them), because of two reasons: 1) the client provided no content, but a business card, and 2) the client requested a site for a minimum fee.

I agree with you for the most part. It’s all about getting the message accross. A one-pager can very well mean that you will get that message accross quickly and clearly.

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