Comments on: 24sata.hr goes non-standards http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2007/05/18/24sata-goes-non-standards/ Hypertext rulez™ Fri, 21 Nov 2008 13:31:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: fiju briju http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2007/05/18/24sata-goes-non-standards/#comment-8150 fiju briju Sun, 05 Aug 2007 19:12:26 +0000 http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2007/05/18/24sata-goes-non-standards/#comment-8150 Guyz, forgetting that any product such as web site is made for users, not geeks?? I happen to know that their official unique users count went 20 to 30 % up since the new site was introduced. Need anything more? "Advertising Archive", couldn't agree more with you, seems you got the point. Guyz, forgetting that any product such as web site is made for users, not geeks??
I happen to know that their official unique users count went 20 to 30 % up since the new site was introduced. Need anything more?
“Advertising Archive”, couldn’t agree more with you, seems you got the point.

]]> By: KRESO http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2007/05/18/24sata-goes-non-standards/#comment-7777 KRESO Sun, 10 Jun 2007 13:36:04 +0000 http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2007/05/18/24sata-goes-non-standards/#comment-7777 Darn... Even me could do better looking site than this new one and I am no good. Darn… Even me could do better looking site than this new one and I am no good.

]]> By: Sinisa Dukaric http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2007/05/18/24sata-goes-non-standards/#comment-7665 Sinisa Dukaric Wed, 23 May 2007 15:25:40 +0000 http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2007/05/18/24sata-goes-non-standards/#comment-7665 @ADVERTISING ARCHIVE: Dude, you missed the point, completely :) @ADVERTISING ARCHIVE:
Dude, you missed the point, completely :)

]]> By: monkey http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2007/05/18/24sata-goes-non-standards/#comment-7664 monkey Wed, 23 May 2007 13:21:19 +0000 http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2007/05/18/24sata-goes-non-standards/#comment-7664 Everything is alredy said, they have made a huge mistake. The sad thing is that they are not aware of that. What a stupid move backwards! Everything is alredy said, they have made a huge mistake. The sad thing is that they are not aware of that.

What a stupid move backwards!

]]> By: advertising archive http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2007/05/18/24sata-goes-non-standards/#comment-7663 advertising archive Wed, 23 May 2007 12:21:53 +0000 http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2007/05/18/24sata-goes-non-standards/#comment-7663 The new site is great. It's a merge between TV and newspaper. This is exactly what the web should be about. Little copy and lot of images and videos. I like the layout too. Congrats to the creators! The new site is great. It’s a merge between TV and newspaper. This is exactly what the web should be about. Little copy and lot of images and videos. I like the layout too. Congrats to the creators!

]]> By: guycalledseven http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2007/05/18/24sata-goes-non-standards/#comment-7656 guycalledseven Tue, 22 May 2007 18:26:31 +0000 http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2007/05/18/24sata-goes-non-standards/#comment-7656 OMG! This must be for you like watching your arms being ripped apart by a grenade! I know how I would feel mate. Btw, my first tought was that 24.hr went completely Flash. Kiosk ready mode. :) But then I viewed source... OMG ^ 2 OMG! This must be for you like watching your arms being ripped apart by a grenade! I know how I would feel mate.

Btw, my first tought was that 24.hr went completely Flash. Kiosk ready mode. :) But then I viewed source… OMG ^ 2

]]> By: Sinisa Dukaric http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2007/05/18/24sata-goes-non-standards/#comment-7655 Sinisa Dukaric Tue, 22 May 2007 16:15:24 +0000 http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2007/05/18/24sata-goes-non-standards/#comment-7655 OMFG. I've found this nice explanation about new design on their "beta" website. "Na portalu se ne može scrollati! Sav sadržaj nalazi se uvijek u jednom ekranu. Sve naslovnice rubrika, svi članci, fotogalerije i video clipovi. Svi su u jednom ekranu! Dakle, to znaći da se cijeli tekst može pročitati bez dodatnih pokreta mišom." There are simply no words for wasting such a magnificient design (instead of working on it and improving it over the time) and then do all this just to save me some scrolling and mouse usage - which is highly unlikely to happen EVER. Oh my. OMFG.

I’ve found this nice explanation about new design on their “beta” website.

“Na portalu se ne može scrollati! Sav sadržaj nalazi se uvijek u jednom ekranu. Sve naslovnice rubrika, svi članci, fotogalerije i video clipovi. Svi su u jednom ekranu! Dakle, to znaći da se cijeli tekst može pročitati bez dodatnih pokreta mišom.”

There are simply no words for wasting such a magnificient design (instead of working on it and improving it over the time) and then do all this just to save me some scrolling and mouse usage - which is highly unlikely to happen EVER.

Oh my.

]]> By: Hrvoje http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2007/05/18/24sata-goes-non-standards/#comment-7647 Hrvoje Mon, 21 May 2007 10:00:03 +0000 http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2007/05/18/24sata-goes-non-standards/#comment-7647 Sadly the web.burza version is no more. The cr*** version is now online. I could not resist to write them my opinion about the "new" version. I could not find who built such a site. Curious to se their other "works". It's like the disney.co.uk store Andy Clarke version that has been replaced by a nonstandars version (<a href="http://www.stuffandnonsense.co.uk/archives/of_mice_and_men.html" title="way back at the end of 2005.">Of mice and men</a>) Sadly the web.burza version is no more. The cr*** version is now online. I could not resist to write them my opinion about the “new” version.
I could not find who built such a site. Curious to se their other “works”.

It’s like the disney.co.uk store Andy Clarke version that has been replaced by a nonstandars version (Of mice and men)

]]> By: sale http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2007/05/18/24sata-goes-non-standards/#comment-7645 sale Mon, 21 May 2007 06:53:19 +0000 http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2007/05/18/24sata-goes-non-standards/#comment-7645 I can imagine what does means to you, as you guys @ web.burza put so much effort in that project. Of course, your version was superb over this, as Bojan nicely noticed, wanna be paper design like web. But for the people outside Croatia reading this, I think it's worth explaining that the 24 sata (24 hours) is a yellow daily magazine which I personally dislike a lot - with that kind of "journalism", short stupid texts, little no worth mentioning affairs, you'll get stupid people. So, for me, the fact that they had a damm good site is the thing that surprised me then when you published it, not this new one that has design and code closer to the design and content of the magazine (which is, as I said it, crXp). Sad but true... I can imagine what does means to you, as you guys @ web.burza put so much effort in that project. Of course, your version was superb over this, as Bojan nicely noticed, wanna be paper design like web.

But for the people outside Croatia reading this, I think it’s worth explaining that the 24 sata (24 hours) is a yellow daily magazine which I personally dislike a lot - with that kind of “journalism”, short stupid texts, little no worth mentioning affairs, you’ll get stupid people. So, for me, the fact that they had a damm good site is the thing that surprised me then when you published it, not this new one that has design and code closer to the design and content of the magazine (which is, as I said it, crXp).

Sad but true…

]]> By: Nikola http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2007/05/18/24sata-goes-non-standards/#comment-7639 Nikola Sun, 20 May 2007 10:24:12 +0000 http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2007/05/18/24sata-goes-non-standards/#comment-7639 Sad :(. I believe they tried to mimic the regular newspaper behavior with the new design, but I don't think that kind of architecture is appropriate for a large news site like 24sata. I have to agree that 24sata.hr was (and still is) one of the best examples of a usable, clean CSS-based design in Croatia, and probably beyond. The new portal is still in development, so we <em>could</em> see some surprises, although I'm not that optimistic in that matter :). Sad :(. I believe they tried to mimic the regular newspaper behavior with the new design, but I don’t think that kind of architecture is appropriate for a large news site like 24sata. I have to agree that 24sata.hr was (and still is) one of the best examples of a usable, clean CSS-based design in Croatia, and probably beyond.

The new portal is still in development, so we could see some surprises, although I’m not that optimistic in that matter :).

]]> By: medo http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2007/05/18/24sata-goes-non-standards/#comment-7633 medo Sat, 19 May 2007 16:14:42 +0000 http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2007/05/18/24sata-goes-non-standards/#comment-7633 Looks like the beta is only live on 24sata.com. 24sata.hr still has the orginal web.burza design. Temporary or can't they make their minds up? Looks like the beta is only live on 24sata.com. 24sata.hr still has the orginal web.burza design.

Temporary or can’t they make their minds up?

]]> By: Bojan http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2007/05/18/24sata-goes-non-standards/#comment-7632 Bojan Sat, 19 May 2007 15:24:12 +0000 http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2007/05/18/24sata-goes-non-standards/#comment-7632 Whoever designed it made the mistake of trying to create a layout that is just not suited for the web. It is not a very good idea and it is not well executed. Hopefully the beta will never go live. I have to note that the current 24sata is visually the best news portal in Croatia. Although, the recently added ads don't do the site any favors in the visual department. I agree with Emanuel, you can learn a lot from studying the code of the site. Whoever designed it made the mistake of trying to create a layout that is just not suited for the web. It is not a very good idea and it is not well executed. Hopefully the beta will never go live.

I have to note that the current 24sata is visually the best news portal in Croatia. Although, the recently added ads don’t do the site any favors in the visual department. I agree with Emanuel, you can learn a lot from studying the code of the site.

]]> By: Emanuel http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2007/05/18/24sata-goes-non-standards/#comment-7631 Emanuel Sat, 19 May 2007 15:17:15 +0000 http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2007/05/18/24sata-goes-non-standards/#comment-7631 I think the previous version was trully what XHTML and CSS is for - great graphic, great code. It was beautiful in design and you could learn a lot from looking the code. I saw this new version a few days ago and didn't like it - I tought who designed it? I think the previous version was trully what XHTML and CSS is for - great graphic, great code. It was beautiful in design and you could learn a lot from looking the code. I saw this new version a few days ago and didn’t like it - I tought who designed it?

]]> By: medo http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2007/05/18/24sata-goes-non-standards/#comment-7624 medo Fri, 18 May 2007 17:30:59 +0000 http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2007/05/18/24sata-goes-non-standards/#comment-7624 Dissapointing to say the least. 24sata or who ever was responsible for this re-design have got it really wrong. As far as I am concerned its a massive step back from the previous site. What were they thinking about???? Dissapointing to say the least. 24sata or who ever was responsible for this re-design have got it really wrong. As far as I am concerned its a massive step back from the previous site.

What were they thinking about????

]]> By: Mislav http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2007/05/18/24sata-goes-non-standards/#comment-7623 Mislav Fri, 18 May 2007 15:52:16 +0000 http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2007/05/18/24sata-goes-non-standards/#comment-7623 Oops ... "have learned a lesson" :) Oops … “have learned a lesson” :)

]]> By: Mislav http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2007/05/18/24sata-goes-non-standards/#comment-7622 Mislav Fri, 18 May 2007 15:42:53 +0000 http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2007/05/18/24sata-goes-non-standards/#comment-7622 Really a shame. Too bad their traffic won't be at least affected - their visitors are used to worse. Otherwise they would have learn a lesson. Really a shame. Too bad their traffic won’t be at least affected - their visitors are used to worse. Otherwise they would have learn a lesson.

]]> By: Mario Baricevic http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2007/05/18/24sata-goes-non-standards/#comment-7621 Mario Baricevic Fri, 18 May 2007 15:02:01 +0000 http://www.maratz.com/blog/archives/2007/05/18/24sata-goes-non-standards/#comment-7621 Who's the author of the new page? Did the 24sata management wanted the new site to be as awful (design & code vise) as this one or is it just the sites author fault? Anyway, the old site was much, much better & it's a shame that they've degraded to this, almost amateur level, site... Who’s the author of the new page? Did the 24sata management wanted the new site to be as awful (design & code vise) as this one or is it just the sites author fault? Anyway, the old site was much, much better & it’s a shame that they’ve degraded to this, almost amateur level, site…

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